{"id":1211,"date":"2020-08-18T11:30:49","date_gmt":"2020-08-18T11:30:49","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/suntbine.md\/?post_type=episode&#038;p=1211"},"modified":"2021-01-15T18:04:53","modified_gmt":"2021-01-15T18:04:53","slug":"depresia-la-masculin","status":"publish","type":"episode","link":"https:\/\/suntbine.md\/?episode=depresia-la-masculin","title":{"rendered":"#5 Depresia la masculin"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div class=\"wp-block-group\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><em>Aboneaz\u0103-te la podcastul \u201eSunt Bine\u201d \u0219i las\u0103-ne o recomandare! \ud83c\udf1f<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--1\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link has-vivid-purple-color has-text-color wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/sunt-bine-podcast\/id1505037113\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Apple Podcasts<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--2\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link has-vivid-red-color has-text-color wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.google.com\/feed\/aHR0cHM6Ly9hbmNob3IuZm0vcy8xODdiMzE5MC9wb2RjYXN0L3Jzcw==\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Google Podcasts<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-outline is-style-outline--3\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link has-vivid-green-cyan-color has-text-color wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/0uzfEeaELxUIpQHnyF7TrL\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Spotify<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-drop-cap\">Ultima dat\u0103 c\u00e2nd a zburat cu avionul, Ivan avea o doz\u0103 de \u201eDiazepam\u201d \u00een s\u00e2nge. Urma un zbor lung. \u0218tia c\u0103 va trebui s\u0103-\u0219i p\u0103streze calmul dac\u0103 vrea s\u0103 ajung\u0103 cu bine \u00een vizit\u0103 la mama, care e stabilit\u0103 de mai mul\u021bi ani peste hotare. \u0218i-a f\u0103cut injec\u021bia singur, are deja un ritual. De c\u00e2\u021biva ani, Ivan are atacuri de panic\u0103 pe fundal de depresie. Starea de anxietate se declan\u0219eaz\u0103 mai ales c\u00e2nd trebuie s\u0103 plece de acas\u0103, fie c\u0103 trebuie s\u0103 ajung\u0103 \u00een cel\u0103lalt col\u021b al \u0163\u0103rii sau la alt cap\u0103t de continent. De\u0219i a \u00eenv\u0103\u021bat s\u0103 o gestioneze, nu \u00eentotdeauna \u00eei reu\u0219e\u0219te.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p><strong>IVAN<\/strong>: \u201eC\u00e2teodat\u0103, stau un timp \u00eendelungat acas\u0103, vreo trei-patru zile, de pild\u0103, \u0219i trebuie s\u0103 ies undeva s\u0103 m\u0103 duc &#8211; sau \u00een alt ora\u0219, sau cu cineva -, \u0219i \u00eencep s\u0103 am emo\u0163ii, nu pot s\u0103 dorm noaptea. E o fric\u0103 \u00eendelungat\u0103\u2026 Asta e ceva de groaz\u0103 pentru mine.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Odat\u0103, c\u00e2nd s-a pornit \u00een vizit\u0103 la tata \u0219i la cei doi fra\u021bi din Germania, Ivan a r\u0103mas f\u0103r\u0103 medicamentele necesare. \u00cen farmacia de la aeroport nu a putut cump\u0103ra nimic util f\u0103r\u0103 re\u021bet\u0103. S-a mul\u021bumit cu ni\u0219te pic\u0103turi calmante. Dar c\u00e2nd a ajuns la destina\u021bie, nu s-a sim\u021bit mai bine.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>IVAN: \u201e<\/strong>\u00cemi d\u0103deau cu lingura valerian\u0103, nu \u0219tiu ce-mi d\u0103deau, \u00eemi era r\u0103u, eu am zis c\u0103 nu pot, nu rezist, c\u0103 starea mea e groaznic\u0103 \u0219i mi-au luat bilet peste dou\u0103 zile \u00eenapoi la avion.\u201d&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ivan e un t\u00e2n\u0103r de 28 de ani. S-a n\u0103scut, a crescut \u0219i a \u00eenv\u0103\u021bat \u00eentr-un ora\u0219 din sudul Moldovei. \u00cenalt, usc\u0103\u021biv \u0219i brunet, rareori apare cu z\u00e2mbetul pe buze. Nu l-am v\u0103zut niciodat\u0103 \u00een realitate, dar a\u0219a arat\u0103 \u00een pozele pe care le-a publicat pe re\u021belele de socializare. De cele mai dese ori, este al\u0103turi de cineva apropiat: fie mama, fie cei doi fra\u021bi mai mici. Unul dintre ei, Dima, are 20 de ani \u015fi este student la conservator \u00een Germania. Iat\u0103 cum \u0219i-l aminte\u0219te Dima pe Ivan.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>DIMA<\/strong>: \u201eDin copil\u0103rie era cumva altfel, \u00een opinia mea, \u00eentotdeauna era foarte sensibil \u0219i punea totul la inim\u0103, orice ceart\u0103, orice \u00eencercare de a-l str\u00e2mtora cumva. [&#8230;] Dar mereu am sim\u0163it dragostea lui fa\u021b\u0103 de noi \u0219i sentimentul e reciproc din partea mea.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2048\" height=\"2048\" src=\"https:\/\/suntbine.md\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/Ep-5.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-1213\"\/><figcaption>Ilustra\u021bie: Ana Grigorovscaia<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Ca \u0219i mul\u021bi al\u021bi moldoveni, \u00een anii \u201990, p\u0103rin\u021bii lui Ivan plecau periodic la munc\u0103 peste hotare. De la v\u00e2rsta de doi ani, a fost crescut de bunici.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>IVAN<\/strong>: \u201eBunica era bun\u0103, a fost de\u0219teapt\u0103, lucra contabil\u0103, avea medalii sovietice. \u00centotdeauna era lini\u0219tit\u0103, niciodat\u0103 nu spunea vreo prostie. M\u0103 iubea \u0219i normal c\u0103&#8230; \u00centotdeauna m\u0103 chema Vaniu\u0219a, chiar \u021bin minte \u0219i m\u0103 \u00eembr\u0103ca c\u00e2nd aveam vreo trei ani. Totul f\u0103cea pentru mine.\u201d&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Bunica a murit de cancer c\u00e2nd Ivan avea \u0219apte ani. P\u0103rin\u021bii au revenit \u00een Moldova, au cump\u0103rat un apartament \u0219i toat\u0103 familia a \u00eenceput s\u0103 tr\u0103iasc\u0103 \u00eempreun\u0103. Rela\u021biile \u00eens\u0103 au avut de suferit. Ivan spune c\u0103 tat\u0103l \u00eei limita libertatea de care avea nevoie la acea v\u00e2rst\u0103, iar certurile cu sc\u00e2ntei deveneau tot mai frecvente.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>IVAN<\/strong>: \u201eAmintiri frumoase c\u00e2nd era bunica vie. Atunci au fost. Copil\u0103ria a fost ca o poveste pentru mine. Atunci eu eram liber, m\u0103 sim\u021beam, nu \u0219tiu cum s\u0103 spun, copil. Pe urm\u0103, nu prea&#8230; \u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"199\" height=\"54\" src=\"https:\/\/suntbine.md\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/decorative-line-black-transparent-png-1.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-644\"\/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>A urmat \u0219coala cu urcu\u015furi \u0219i cobor\u00e2\u0219uri, serviciul militar \u2013 decizie pe care Ivan o regret\u0103 p\u00e2n\u0103 acum &#8211; \u0219i primul job, unde \u015fi-a f\u0103cut prieteni printre colegii de munc\u0103. \u00cen 2012 \u00eens\u0103, via\u021ba familiei s-a schimbat ireversibil. P\u0103rin\u021bii au divor\u021bat. C\u00e2nd a aflat vestea, Ivan era la unchiul s\u0103u \u00een Rusia. \u0218ocul l-a determinat s\u0103 revin\u0103 acas\u0103. Iat\u0103 cum \u00ee\u0219i amintesc Dima \u0219i Ivan acea perioad\u0103.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>DIMA: \u201e<\/strong>Aveam 11 ani, deja m\u0103 mutasem la Chi\u0219in\u0103u, locuiam singur la c\u0103min \u0219i m\u0103 ocupam cu muzica. \u015ei exact atunci s-a \u00eent\u00e2mplat asta. La drept vorbind, a fost complicat c\u00e2nd mama a decis s\u0103 se despart\u0103 de tata&#8230; Desigur, sim\u021beam un resentiment, ca \u0219i orice copil. Dar nu \u00eenseamn\u0103 c\u0103 nu erau probleme acas\u0103. Mama avea multe probleme cu tata \u0219i de aceea a decis s\u0103 se despart\u0103. Da, era greu. Cred c\u0103 pentru orice copil e greu c\u00e2nd p\u0103rin\u021bii divor\u021beaz\u0103, e de la sine \u00een\u021beles.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p><strong>IVAN<\/strong>: \u201eEu nu voiam nimic. Nu voiam nici s\u0103 tr\u0103iesc, nu vedeam niciun viitor, deloc, pentru mine. M\u0103 credeam pierdut, l\u0103sat singur.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Ivan s-a adresat dup\u0103 ajutor la Spitalul de psihiatrie de la Chi\u0219in\u0103u. Era februarie 2013, a fost internat pentru trei s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2ni. Dar zice c\u0103 asta doar i-a agravat situa\u021bia.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>IVAN:<\/strong> \u201eEu voiam chiar s\u0103 fug de acolo. Nu \u0219tiam ce s\u0103 fac. M\u0103 sim\u021beam \u00eenchis, nu m\u0103 sim\u021beam liber \u0219i nu-mi g\u0103seam loc acolo. Am intrat \u00eentr-o depresie \u00eenc\u0103 mai mare. Vreo jum\u0103tate de an nu am ie\u0219it din cas\u0103. Ie\u0219eam numai seara, nu suportam lumina zilei, \u00eenchideam toate jaluzelele \u00een cas\u0103, st\u0103team pe \u00eentuneric.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ivan privea seriale \u0219i ignora lumea din jur. \u015ei a\u015fa, timp de \u015fase luni.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>IVAN:<\/strong> \u201eEu nu comunicam cu nimeni, nu voiam pe nimeni s\u0103 v\u0103d, nu voiam pe nimeni s\u0103 aud, nu aveam niciun interes, m\u0103 g\u00e2ndeam c\u0103 nu e niciun sens, m\u0103 g\u00e2ndeam niciun viitor \u00een via\u021b\u0103, m\u0103 g\u00e2ndeam cum s\u0103 termin tot asta, m\u0103 g\u00e2ndeam tot.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ivan sim\u021bea c\u0103 starea lui nu se \u00eembun\u0103t\u0103\u021be\u0219te. A\u0219a a ajuns la Centrul comunitar de s\u0103n\u0103tate mintal\u0103 din localitatea sa. Acolo i s-a prescris tratament medicamentos, care dureaz\u0103 p\u00e2n\u0103 acum. Din 2013, Ivan ia antidepresive. A \u00eencercat s\u0103 le abandoneze de trei-patru ori, dar n-a reu\u0219it.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>IVAN<\/strong>: \u00cemi reveneau gre\u021burile, gre\u021buri mari, eu nu puteam s\u0103 m\u0103n\u00e2nc, nu puteam s\u0103 dorm normal, eram sensibil la tot \u0219i m\u0103 \u00eentorceam la sf\u00e2r\u0219it \u00eenapoi, fiindc\u0103 nu puteam&#8230; A fost o deprindere de pastilele astea, nu \u0219tiu&#8230;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"199\" height=\"54\" src=\"https:\/\/suntbine.md\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/decorative-line-black-transparent-png-1.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-644\"\/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Datele<a href=\"https:\/\/www.euro.who.int\/en\/countries\/republic-of-moldova\/data-and-statistics\/infographic-depression-in-republic-of-moldova-2017\"> Organiza\u021biei Mondiale a S\u0103n\u0103t\u0103\u021bii<\/a> din 2017 arat\u0103 c\u0103 \u00een Republica Moldova prin st\u0103ri de depresie trece 5.4% din popula\u021bie, ceva mai mult dec\u00e2t media regional\u0103 (5.0%). Printre simptomele depresiei se num\u0103r\u0103 triste\u021bea, apatia, pierderea poftei de m\u00e2ncare, sc\u0103derea capacit\u0103\u021bii de concentrare, tulbur\u0103rile de somn. Mai putem vorbi despre o atitudine excesiv de negativ\u0103 fa\u021b\u0103 de sine, autoblamarea \u00een diferite circumstan\u021be, g\u00e2nduri suicidale. Aceste simptome devin \u00eengrijor\u0103toare dac\u0103 se men\u021bin timp de dou\u0103 s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2ni. Psihiatrul \u0219i psihoterapeutul Andrei E\u0219anu afirm\u0103 c\u0103 tratamentul medicamentos este mai u\u0219or acceptat la noi \u00een societate dec\u00e2t terapia, de\u0219i \u00een Occident oamenii tind s\u0103 dea preferin\u0163\u0103 \u0219edin\u021belor de psihoterapie. Totu\u0219i, trebuie s\u0103 fie o combina\u021bie de mijloace \u015fi metode, consider\u0103 E\u0219anu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>ANDREI E\u0218ANU:<\/strong> \u201eDe fapt, eu foarte des \u00eent\u00e2lnesc: da\u021bi doar medicamente \u0219i asta e tot. \u0218i po\u021bi s\u0103 iei tratamentul medicamentos mul\u021bi ani la r\u00e2nd \u0219i rezultatele sunt mici. De ce? Pentru c\u0103 studiile arat\u0103 c\u0103 doar tratamentul medicamentos are succes \u00een 25-30% din cazuri, tratamentul medicamentos \u00een combina\u021bie cu psihoterapia ofer\u0103 de la 50% la 70% cazuri de succes. Vorbim de medicamente, de psihoterapie, prieteni, familie. Cu c\u00e2t mai mul\u021bi sunt implica\u021bi, cu at\u00e2t mai mare este probabilitatea de a dep\u0103\u0219i depresia.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"199\" height=\"54\" src=\"https:\/\/suntbine.md\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/decorative-line-black-transparent-png-1.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-644\"\/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Ivan locuie\u0219te \u00eentr-o cas\u0103 pe un mal de r\u00e2u. Are grij\u0103 de bunicul s\u0103u, care are 82 de ani, \u0219i de o gr\u0103din\u0103 cu legume, inundat\u0103 recent de ploi toren\u021biale. Pe l\u00e2ng\u0103 cas\u0103 se \u00eenv\u00e2rtesc c\u00e2teva pisici abia venite pe lume, pe care Ivan le las\u0103 s\u0103 doarm\u0103 pe p\u0103tura moale de pe pat. Casa este umbrit\u0103 de o vie c\u0103\u021b\u0103r\u0103toare, care a pus st\u0103p\u00e2nire pe curte. Construc\u0163ia, ridicat\u0103 \u00een anii 1920, a fost g\u00e2ndit\u0103 ca un grajd pentru cai. Pe pere\u021bi sunt fotografii vechi, sute de c\u0103r\u021bi din perioada sovietic\u0103 \u0219i un poster \u00een culori \u0219terse al actorului italian Mikele Placido, care a r\u0103mas de la mama, de prin anii \u201990. Acum, ca e un muzeu de anticariat, zice \u00een glum\u0103 Ivan.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>DIMA<\/strong>: \u201e\u00cencercam s\u0103-l conving s\u0103 vin\u0103, s\u0103 \u00eenceap\u0103 aici o via\u021b\u0103 nou\u0103, dar sunt multe momente prin care nu vrea s\u0103 treac\u0103, inclusiv s\u0103 interac\u0163ioneze mai str\u00e2ns cu tata, fiindc\u0103, dac\u0103 totu\u0219i va veni, va fi nevoit s\u0103 stea un timp la tata, s\u0103 lucreze\u2026\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Nu doar Dima a \u00eencercat s\u0103-l conving\u0103 s\u0103 emigreze. \u0218i tat\u0103l, \u0219i mama, care acum e stabilit\u0103 \u00een Portugalia, i-au propus s\u0103 se mute, \u00eens\u0103 la fel f\u0103r\u0103 succes.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ivan \u00ee\u0219i \u00eencepe dimine\u021bile cu o cafea. Carantina din cauza pandemiei de coronavirus nu i-a schimbat prea mult rutina. Spune c\u0103 \u0219i a\u0219a nu prea ie\u0219ea din cas\u0103. G\u0103te\u015fte pentru sine \u0219i bunicul, face sport, discut\u0103 pe WhatsApp cu p\u0103rin\u021bii \u0219i fra\u021bii. Cel mai des, \u00eel sun\u0103 pe Dima. De obicei, vorbesc despre istorie, psihologie, grijile de zi cu zi. \u201eFilozofeaz\u0103\u201d despre totul \u0219i despre nimic, cum zic ei. Dima a devenit principala persoan\u0103 c\u0103reia \u00eei poveste\u015fte ce g\u00e2nduri \u0219i frici \u00eel macin\u0103. Nu era a\u0219a tot timpul, dar fra\u021bii se bucur\u0103 c\u0103 au devenit mai apropia\u021bi \u00een ultimul timp.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p><strong>DIMA<\/strong>: \u201eA\u0219 spune c\u0103 am devenit mai apropia\u021bi datorit\u0103 faptului c\u0103 ne era dor unul de altul. Evident, noi ne-am mutat, el a r\u0103mas acolo singur. \u00centr-un fel, toat\u0103 familia a plecat&#8230; Cred c\u0103 ne era dor.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>C\u00e2nd \u00ee\u0219i aminte\u0219te de copil\u0103ria sa \u00een Moldova, lui Dima \u00eei vin \u00een minte aventurile al\u0103turi de fra\u021bi.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>DIMA<\/strong>: \u201eEra iarn\u0103, eu \u015fi fra\u021bii mei ne d\u0103deam cu sania \u0219i ne distram, ca s\u0103 zic a\u0219a. Fratele mai mic avea o ciocolat\u0103 \u201eGriliaj\u201d, e o bomboan\u0103 tare cu nuci, \u0219i a sc\u0103pat-o \u00een z\u0103pad\u0103. Am \u00eenceput s\u0103 o c\u0103ut\u0103m, dar a\u0219a \u0219i n-am g\u0103sit-o. Fratele meu mai mare &#8211; Vanea, a g\u0103sit o bucat\u0103 de ceva \u00eenghe\u021bat, presupun c\u0103 erau excremente, \u0219i i-a dat-o fratelui mai mic. El nu a putut mu\u0219ca din chestia aia, apoi a \u00een\u021beles c\u0103 nu era o bomboan\u0103 \u0219i a \u00eenceput s\u0103 pl\u00e2ng\u0103. Dar a fost vesel, \u00een orice caz.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pe WhatsApp, discut\u0103 deseori despre viitorul lui Ivan. Dima vrea ca fratele mai mare s\u0103 ob\u0163in\u0103 mai repede pa\u0219aportul rom\u00e2nesc \u015fi s\u0103 emigreze \u00een Germania, pentru a fi al\u0103turi de ei.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p><strong>IVAN<\/strong>: \u201eC\u00e2nd m\u0103 duc la tata, m\u0103 simt o povar\u0103 pentru d\u00e2nsul. Nu m\u0103 simt confortabil, m\u0103 simt o povar\u0103. Fix a\u0219a cu mama. M\u0103 simt str\u0103in printre ai mei. Acas\u0103, cum s\u0103 spun, eu nu \u0219tiu precis unde e casa mea. Casa mea a r\u0103mas undeva c\u00e2nd eram \u00een copil\u0103rie, c\u00e2nd eram \u00eempreun\u0103 to\u021bi fra\u021bii, p\u0103rin\u021bii, dar acum eu nu \u0219tiu cum pot s\u0103 spun. Casa mea a r\u0103mas \u00een timpuri trecute.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Dima crede c\u0103 Ivan st\u0103 pe loc \u0219i la propriu, \u0219i la figurat, iar emigrarea ar putea fi un pas \u00eenainte.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>DIMA: \u201e<\/strong>Dar chiar \u015fi a\u015fa, eu totu\u0219i a\u0219 face-o, ar fi un impuls nou \u00een via\u021ba lui, o mi\u0219care \u00eentr-o oarecare direc\u021bie, fie ea una bun\u0103 sau gre\u0219it\u0103. Cred c\u0103 e r\u0103u s\u0103 nu faci nimic. C\u00e2nd nu faci nimic, nu tr\u0103ie\u0219ti. Totul st\u0103 pe loc \u0219i nu sim\u021bi nicio mi\u0219care: nici c\u0103derile, nici \u00een\u0103l\u021b\u0103rile. \u0218i asta e trist.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ivan \u0219tie c\u0103 Dima are dreptate. De\u0219i nu are un plan, are de g\u00e2nd s\u0103 fac\u0103 o schimbare. Se g\u00e2nde\u0219te s\u0103 apeleze la ajutorul unui specialist de la Chi\u0219in\u0103u, care s\u0103-i revizuiasc\u0103 tratamentul. Viseaz\u0103 s\u0103-\u0219i continue studiile. Poate, s\u0103 emigreze. Dar iat\u0103 ce-\u0219i dore\u0219te Ivan cel mai mult.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>IVAN<\/strong>: \u201eEu, \u00een ziua de azi, sunt rezultatul a ceea ce a fost \u00een via\u021ba mea. De asta spun c\u0103 cel mai principal scop \u00een via\u021ba mea e s\u0103 am control asupra emo\u021biilor mele. S\u0103 nu m\u0103 g\u00e2ndesc la negativ, s\u0103 nu v\u0103d acest negativ, eu m-am s\u0103turat de d\u00e2nsul.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ivan deja a \u00eenceput s\u0103 fac\u0103 primii pa\u0219i.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>IVAN<\/strong>: \u201eIes afar\u0103, m\u0103 uit la stele noaptea \u0219i m\u0103 simt mai bine. \u00cencep chiar s\u0103 controlez aceste procese. C\u00e2nd v\u0103d ceva ce poate s\u0103-mi provoace disconfort, \u00eencerc s\u0103 dau asta la o parte.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"199\" height=\"54\" src=\"https:\/\/suntbine.md\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/decorative-line-black-transparent-png-1.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-644\"\/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Valentin avea patru ani c\u00e2nd \u0219i-a \u00eent\u00e2lnit cel mai bun prieten. Se \u00eent\u00e2mpla \u00een anul 1990, \u00een curtea unui bloc din Chi\u0219in\u0103u. Victor era cu aproape un an mai mare \u0219i avea o frizur\u0103 lung\u0103, modern\u0103.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>VALENTIN:<\/strong> \u201e\u0218i eu eram \u00een una din pu\u021binele ori c\u00e2nd eram aproape ras pe cap \u0219i \u00een ochii lui eram b\u0103ie\u021belul tuns scurt, care se juca cu p\u0103pu\u0219ile. Dar eu, de fapt, eram cu p\u0103pu\u0219ile lui sor\u0103-mea. El era foarte mare iubitor de fotbal, eu &#8211; nu, dar nu prea aveam de ales. Pentru c\u0103 dac\u0103 voiam s\u0103 m\u0103 joc cu el, trebuia s\u0103 joc fotbal. \u0218i el era a\u0219a foarte haotic, \u0219i eu eram a\u0219a foarte cuminte.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u0218i a\u0219a au crescut \u00eempreun\u0103, juc\u00e2ndu-se pe afar\u0103 \u0219i \u00eemp\u0103r\u021bind juc\u0103rii. P\u0103rin\u021bii lor erau \u0219i ei prieteni, iar asta \u00eensemna c\u0103 familiile se \u00eent\u00e2lneau des, inclusiv de s\u0103rb\u0103tori, \u00ee\u0219i aminte\u0219te Victor.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p><strong>VICTOR: <\/strong>\u201eDeoarece ambii locuiam l\u00e2ng\u0103 cimitir, aveam foarte multe legate de locul \u0103la. Cum ne petreceam noi timpul deseori c\u00e2nd p\u0103rin\u021bii se \u00eent\u00e2lneau la zilele de na\u0219tere? Noi ie\u0219eam \u00een cimitir \u0219i mai speriam oamenii care treceau pe al\u0103turi. \u00cembr\u0103cam cear\u0219afuri, prostii de astea. Cam toat\u0103 copil\u0103ria a fost frumoas\u0103 datorit\u0103 faptului c\u0103 l-am avut ca prieten.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Evident, n-a fost f\u0103r\u0103 certuri sau ne\u00een\u021belegeri. C\u00e2nd erau adolescen\u021bi \u0219i s-au dus \u00eempreun\u0103 la tab\u0103r\u0103, s-au \u0219i b\u0103tut \u00een noroi din cauza fetelor. Ceea ce nu \u0219tiau pe-atunci e c\u0103 adev\u0103ratele provoc\u0103ri \u00een via\u021b\u0103 abia urmeaz\u0103.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Valentin are 34 de ani. Spune c\u0103 s-a n\u0103scut \u00eentr-o familie-model, cu p\u0103rin\u021bi profesori. A fost un copil sensibil, educat s\u0103 se poarte corect \u0219i s\u0103-\u0219i c\u00e2\u0219tige onest banii. C\u00e2nd a intrat la facultatea de business \u0219i administrare, a combinat studiile cu mai multe joburi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>VALENTIN: <\/strong>\u201eAm f\u0103cut <em>chelnerie <\/em>de mai multe feluri. Era chelnerie direct\u0103, cu clien\u021bii, erau evenimente pompoase, scumpe, nun\u021bi. Am lucrat la xeroxat, nu \u021bin minte c\u00e2te luni. Am v\u00e2ndut electrocasnice \u00eentr-un butic\u2026\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Depresia la b\u0103rba\u021bi | Sunt Bine Podcast\" width=\"825\" height=\"464\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/8FyMGcDnTiQ?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Dup\u0103 ce a absolvit Academia de Studii Economice, v\u00e2n\u0103toarea de joburi a continuat.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>VALENTIN: <\/strong>\u201eAm fost director de marketing de c\u00e2teva ori, eram m\u00e2na ajut\u0103toare a \u0219efului \u0219i f\u0103ceam de toate, dar undeva la nivel de comunicare a fost problem\u0103 \u00eentre noi. Undeva \u0219eful a avut problem\u0103. \u0218i tot erau dezam\u0103giri \u0219i zic: b\u0103i, de ce nu m\u0103 pot reg\u0103si? Ce se \u00eent\u00e2mpl\u0103? \u0218i chiar undeva \u00eemi d\u0103deam seama c\u0103 nu e vina mea, dar oricum, ceva nu e ok. \u0218i o dezam\u0103gire profesional\u0103, o dezam\u0103gire \u00een rela\u021bii, o dezam\u0103gire la nivel de comunicare cu oameni pe care \u00eei consideram pe vremea aia apropia\u021bi \u015fi tot asta&#8230; \u015ei sufletul meu c\u0103lduros, s\u0103 zic a\u0219a, plin de emo\u021bie, zicea: eu chiar nu merit ni\u0219te oameni ok sau sus\u021binere calitativ\u0103 sau ce se \u00eent\u00e2mpl\u0103?\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Valentin vedea aceste dezam\u0103giri ca pe ni\u0219te e\u0219ecuri personale \u0219i se \u00eenvinov\u0103\u021bea pe sine \u00eensu\u0219i. Aceste g\u00e2nduri \u00eei provocau ni\u0219te insomnii teribile. \u00cen plus, \u00een acea perioad\u0103, Victor era plecat peste hotare, iar Valentin \u00eei sim\u021bea lipsa.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p><strong>VALENTIN:<\/strong> \u201eNu puteam fi mare egoist ca s\u0103-l sun pe Victor la orice or\u0103, \u00eemi d\u0103deam seama c\u0103 avea \u0219i el problemele lui \u0219i nu voiam s\u0103-l \u00eencarc, dar oricum aveam nevoie. Mi-a luat undeva o lun\u0103 &#8211; din februarie 2014 p\u00e2n\u0103 \u00een martie 2014, c\u00e2nd eu, practic, eram \u00eenchis \u00een camer\u0103. P\u00e2n\u0103 n-am ajuns s\u0103-mi pierd gustul de m\u00e2ncare \u0219i atunci am \u00een\u021beles: ok, aici e o problem\u0103 mult mai serioas\u0103 la nivel chimic, nu e vorba doar de g\u00e2nduri.\u201d <\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Zi de zi starea lui se \u00eenr\u0103ut\u0103\u021bea. St\u00e2nd \u00een \u00eentuneric, cu jaluzelele trase, Valentin auzea voci.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>VALENTIN: <\/strong>\u201eAuzeam voci \u00een permanen\u021b\u0103 \u015fi voci pe care c\u00e2teodat\u0103 le recuno\u0219team c\u0103 e vorba de ni\u0219te g\u00e2nduri \u0219i mesaje care mi s-au spus \u00een trecut de c\u0103tre cineva. Dar la un moment dat au ajuns s\u0103 se certe \u00eengerul \u0219i demonul pe umerii mei \u0219i unul s\u0103-mi zic\u0103 c\u0103 nu mai are rost s\u0103 tr\u0103ie\u0219ti \u0219i al doilea s\u0103 m\u0103 conving\u0103 c\u0103, de fapt, nu&#8230; Ar fi minciun\u0103 dac\u0103 a\u0219 spune c\u0103 nu m\u0103 g\u00e2ndeam la suicid, m-am g\u00e2ndit foarte mult, dar totu\u0219i ceva \u00een capul meu spunea c\u0103 nu e \u0103sta finalul \u0219i solu\u021bii exist\u0103 la tot.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Valentin \u00een\u021belegea \u2013 dac\u0103 vrea s\u0103 scape, trebuie s\u0103 cear\u0103 ajutor. \u0218i-a luat inima \u00een din\u021bi \u0219i le-a spus p\u0103rin\u021bilor prin ce trece.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>VALENTIN: <\/strong>\u201e\u0218i ei m-au \u00een\u021beles mult mai bine dec\u00e2t m-a\u0219 fi a\u0219teptat. Au zis c\u0103 hai, nu te mai \u00eenvinui \u0219i nu te mai bloca at\u00e2ta, pentru c\u0103 e ceva ok \u0219i exist\u0103 solu\u021bii \u0219i se poate de adresat la un specialist \u0219i o s\u0103 fii bine. Nu m-o atacat, nu m-au&#8230; ce-i cu tine, fii mujic sau ia-te-n m\u00e2ini.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Mama lui Valentin a mers cu el la primul consult medical. Au urcat \u00eempreun\u0103 \u00eentr-un microbuz aglomerat. Valentin s-a \u00eenghesuit pe un scaun din spate. \u00ce\u0219i aminte\u0219te c\u0103 \u00eei era fric\u0103 de orice \u0219i se sim\u021bea de parc\u0103 i se va \u00eent\u00e2mpla ceva r\u0103u.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>VALENTIN: <\/strong>\u201eP\u00e2n\u0103 am ajuns a durat vreo 45 de minute, dar eu aveam impresia c\u0103 nu mai ajung.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dup\u0103 ce i-a adresat mai multe \u00eentreb\u0103ri, medicul de la Spitalul de Psihiatrie a stabilit urm\u0103torul diagnostic: depresie acut\u0103, la un pas de schizofrenie. I-a prescris o serie de medicamente \u0219i l-a prevenit c\u0103 va dura ceva timp p\u00e2n\u0103 va sim\u021bi efectul. \u00cenainte s\u0103 \u00eencheie consulta\u021bia, i-a mai spus doar c\u00e2teva cuvinte:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>VALENTIN:<\/strong> \u201eDac\u0103 nu te adresai mai devreme, putea s\u0103 ajung\u0103 mai grav.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Anul ce a urmat a fost pentru Valentin un carusel emo\u021bional, marcat de perioade de recuperare \u0219i noi episoade de depresie. \u00cen acela\u0219i an, Valentin \u0219i Victor au \u00eencercat s\u0103 emigreze \u00een Marea Britanie, dar au \u00eent\u00e2mpinat greut\u0103\u021bi \u0219i s-au \u00eentors acas\u0103. Revenit \u00een Moldova, Valentin a hot\u0103r\u00e2t s\u0103-\u0219i rezolve definitiv problemele de s\u0103n\u0103tate.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>VALENTIN: <\/strong>\u201eEvident c\u0103 de la psihiatru am ajuns la neurolog. Am \u00eenceput s\u0103 urmez diferite tratamente \u0219i diferite controale. \u00cen final, am depistat c\u0103 aveam \u0219i infec\u021bii \u00een organism care-mi d\u0103deau, parazi\u021bi \u0219i bacterii care-mi d\u0103deau b\u0103taie de cap foarte mare. Pentru c\u0103 ajunsesem la o etap\u0103 c\u00e2nd aveam dureri \u00een articula\u021bii, aveam probleme aproape la toate segmentele corpului. \u0218i am \u00eenceput s\u0103 descos, evident am umblat ani \u0219i ani \u0219i ani, practic doi ani numai prin tratamente am umblat \u0219i anul acela a fost pentru mine destul de dur.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Valentin spune c\u0103 n-ar fi putut trece prin aceast\u0103 perioad\u0103 f\u0103r\u0103 sus\u021binerea lui Victor.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>VALENTIN: <\/strong>\u201eTrec\u00e2nd prin perioadele grele \u0219i fiind al\u0103turi, tu \u00een\u021belegi c\u0103 omul nu e cu tine doar c\u00e2nd e bine \u0219i anume sus\u021binerea calitativ\u0103 pe care am avut-o din partea lui nu am avut-o din partea nim\u0103nui&#8230; Pentru mine a contat foarte mult c\u00e2nd el \u00eemi spunea: b\u0103i, eu nu am sim\u021bit niciodat\u0103 ce sim\u021bi tu, eu nu am ajuns a\u0219a de departe, eu nu \u0219tiu prin ce treci, dar eu pot s\u0103-\u021bi spun, eu pot s\u0103 cred c\u0103, uite, a\u0219a ar trebui s\u0103 faci. \u0218i pentru mine asta a fost <em>priceless<\/em>. Nu exist\u0103 valoare mai mare ca omul s\u0103 fie empatic \u0219i s\u0103 \u0219tie c\u0103 el nu poate s\u0103 simt\u0103 ce simt eu, dar s\u0103 vrea totu\u0219i s\u0103 m\u0103 ajute, \u0219tii. Respectiv, asta pe noi ne-a unit \u0219i mai tare.\u201d&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"199\" height=\"54\" src=\"https:\/\/suntbine.md\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/decorative-line-black-transparent-png-1.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-644\"\/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Persoanele cu depresie au nevoie s\u0103 fie auzite, afirm\u0103 psihiatrul \u0219i psihoterapeutul Andrei E\u0219anu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>ANDREI E\u0218ANU: <\/strong>\u201eAu nevoie de acel spa\u021biu de \u00eencredere \u00een comunicare, s\u0103 simt\u0103 c\u0103 pot s\u0103 se dest\u0103inuie sau c\u0103 pot s\u0103 vorbeasc\u0103 despre ceea ce simt. Primul pas pe care eu l-a\u0219 face, pe care, de fapt, \u00eel fac, este s\u0103 \u00eencerc s\u0103 ascult persoana, s\u0103 o ajut s\u0103 se ventileze emo\u021bional, s\u0103 vorbeasc\u0103 liber despre ceea ce simte, dar \u0219i, mai degrab\u0103, de a pune \u00eentreb\u0103ri de concretizare, nu de judecat\u0103. Dac\u0103 ai putea s\u0103 descrii un pic mai mult starea ta? Persoana deja fierbe \u00een aceasta \u0219i are mai degrab\u0103 nevoie de o persoan\u0103 cu care s\u0103 poat\u0103 s\u0103 comunice.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>B\u0103rba\u021bilor le este \u0219i mai greu s\u0103 cear\u0103 ajutor. De vin\u0103 sunt stereotipurile, afirm\u0103 specialistul.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p><strong>ANDREI E\u0218ANU:<\/strong> \u201eB\u0103rba\u021bii trebuie s\u0103 fie puternici &#8211; acesta este principalul motiv, eu cred. B\u0103rba\u021bii trebuie s\u0103 de\u021bin\u0103 controlul \u0219i dac\u0103 am depresie, atunci \u00eenseamn\u0103 c\u0103, probabil, sunt slab \u0219i nu sunt at\u00e2t de puternic \u0219i atunci, probabil, nu de\u021bin controlul. Cum a\u0219a, o emo\u021bie, triste\u021bea, s\u0103 m\u0103 controleze ea pe mine? Eu trebuie s\u0103 o controlez. \u0218i iat\u0103 aceast\u0103 presiune, aceste stereotipuri, aceast\u0103 autostigmatizare p\u00e2n\u0103 la urm\u0103 \u0219i agraveaz\u0103, de fapt, starea depresiei.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"199\" height=\"54\" src=\"https:\/\/suntbine.md\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/decorative-line-black-transparent-png-1.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-644\"\/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00cen prezent, dimine\u021bile lui Valentin \u00eencep \u00een apartamentul lui din Slaw, o suburbie a Londrei, unde a revenit acum un an \u0219i jum\u0103tate. Valentin se treze\u0219te cu trilul p\u0103s\u0103rilor \u0219i \u00ee\u0219i \u00eentinde tot corpul. Deasupra patului alb st\u0103 ag\u0103\u021bat un tablou din cinci p\u0103r\u021bi al lui Buddha. Pe peretele de vizavi, un colaj de imagini \u00eei aminte\u0219te care sunt visele sale cele mai importante: s\u0103-\u0219i \u00eentemeieze o familie, s\u0103 cunoasc\u0103 opt limbi, s\u0103 fac\u0103 sporturi extreme, s\u0103 c\u0103l\u0103toreasc\u0103. 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M\u0103 simt la locul potrivit \u00een momentul potrivit. Mi-am reg\u0103sit lini\u0219tea \u00eentr-o oarecare m\u0103sur\u0103.\u201d&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Victor \u00eei este la fel de apropiat. \u00cen aceast\u0103 var\u0103, se \u00eemplinesc 29 de ani de c\u00e2nd sunt prieteni sau <em>bro<\/em>, a\u0219a cum \u00ee\u0219i spun. De\u0219i Victor e la Bucure\u0219ti, iar Valentin &#8211; la Londra, vorbesc des la telefon. \u00cenainte de pandemie, se vedeau o dat\u0103 la c\u00e2teva luni. Sunt siguri c\u0103 nimic nu-i poate desp\u0103r\u021bi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>VALENTIN: <\/strong>\u201eOm cu care po\u021bi s\u0103-\u021bi faci de cap, s\u0103 te doar\u0103 burta de r\u00e2s \u0219i s\u0103 schimbe placa atunci c\u00e2nd e nevoie \u0219i s\u0103 stai la discu\u021bii de nop\u021bi \u00eentregi, ceea ce noi f\u0103ceam &#8211; discutam nop\u021bi \u00eentregi \u0219i ne plimbam mul\u021bi kilometri pe jos, discut\u00e2nd. Pentru mine asta e ceva ce nu are valoare, nu po\u021bi s\u0103 \u00eenlocuie\u0219ti cu nimic. \u0218i, uite, doar cu el pot a\u0219a s\u0103 vorbesc.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>VICTOR:<\/strong> \u201eM-a ajutat s\u0103 trec printr-un divor\u021b, m-a sus\u021binut, a fost mereu al\u0103turi. \u00cemi \u00een\u021belegea toate st\u0103rile mele de depresie. Poate uneori f\u0103ceam ceva gre\u0219it, dar avea r\u0103bdare \u0219i cred c\u0103 cu asta m-a ajutat cel mai mult. Niciodat\u0103 nu a insistat, nu mi-a pus condi\u021bii sau c\u0103 trebuie s\u0103 faci ceva, pur \u0219i simplu, era al\u0103turi, m\u0103 asculta \u0219i-mi d\u0103dea sfaturi. \u0218i toate luminoase.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>VALENTIN:<\/strong> \u201eExist\u0103 familia de s\u00e2nge \u0219i familia mea de suflet \u0219i, respectiv, el e \u00een capul listei \u00een familia mea de suflet.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>VICTOR:<\/strong> \u201ePur \u0219i simplu, m\u0103 oglindesc \u00een el. E ceva care nu pot explica \u00een cuvinte.&nbsp; \u00cel simt ca pe mine \u00eensumi. Privim lumea identic, o sim\u021bim identic \u0219i \u00eemi este foarte simplu s\u0103 m\u0103 deschid cu el \u0219i cred c\u0103 e reciproc.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"199\" height=\"54\" src=\"https:\/\/suntbine.md\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/decorative-line-black-transparent-png-1.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-644\"\/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Statisticile arat\u0103 c\u0103 femeile sunt diagnosticate cu depresie de dou\u0103 ori mai des ca b\u0103rba\u021bii. Cum se explic\u0103 aceast\u0103 discrepan\u021b\u0103? Exist\u0103 anumite tipuri de depresie specifice femeilor, cum ar fi cea de dup\u0103 na\u0219tere. \u00cen acela\u0219i timp, speciali\u0219tii afirm\u0103 c\u0103 b\u0103rba\u021bii evit\u0103 s\u0103 se adreseze dup\u0103 ajutor. Sau, dac\u0103 se adreseaz\u0103 \u0219i li se pune diagnosticul, sunt mai predispu\u0219i s\u0103 nu urmeze tratamentul, consider\u00e2nd c\u0103 depresia nu este o problem\u0103 serioas\u0103. Lipsa unui ajutor calificat \u0219i presiunea de a se descurca singur agraveaz\u0103 starea depresiei. Datele arat\u0103 c\u0103 de patru ori mai mul\u021bi b\u0103rba\u021bi dec\u00e2t femei se sinucid. Expertul Andrei E\u0219anu \u00eendeamn\u0103 b\u0103rba\u021bii s\u0103 cear\u0103 ajutor \u0219i ne aminte\u0219te un adev\u0103r universal:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>ANDREI E\u0218ANU: <\/strong>\u201eB\u0103rba\u021bii tot au emo\u021bii. Ele conteaz\u0103, ele sunt importante \u0219i poate c\u0103 nu este neap\u0103rat s\u0103 \u021binem sub control totul. To\u021bi suntem oameni p\u00e2n\u0103 la urm\u0103. B\u0103rba\u021bi sau femei. La fel cum femeile au emo\u021bii, \u0219i b\u0103rba\u021bii au emo\u021bii. 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