{"id":936,"date":"2020-05-14T10:01:12","date_gmt":"2020-05-14T10:01:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/suntbine.md\/?post_type=episode&#038;p=936"},"modified":"2020-06-10T13:26:24","modified_gmt":"2020-06-10T13:26:24","slug":"2-fata-din-caruselul-emotiilor","status":"publish","type":"episode","link":"https:\/\/suntbine.md\/?episode=2-fata-din-caruselul-emotiilor","title":{"rendered":"#2 Fata din caruselul emo\u021biilor"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><em>Aboneaz\u0103-te la podcastul \u201eSunt Bine\u201d aici \u0219i las\u0103-ne o recomandare <\/em>\u2b50<em>: <\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button is-style-fill\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link has-text-color has-very-light-gray-color has-background\" href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/sunt-bine-podcast\/id1505037113\" style=\"background-color:#872ec4\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Apple Podcasts<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link has-text-color has-very-dark-gray-color has-background has-very-light-gray-background-color\" href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.google.com\/?feed=aHR0cHM6Ly9hbmNob3IuZm0vcy8xODdiMzE5MC9wb2RjYXN0L3Jzcw&amp;ved=0CAIQ4aUDahcKEwiI_N3YqffpAhUAAAAAHQAAAAAQBw\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Google Podcasts<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-button\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link has-background\" href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/0uzfEeaELxUIpQHnyF7TrL\" style=\"background-color:#1ed761\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Spotify<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><em><strong>Vova: <\/strong>Ce, zah\u0103r tot nu-i?<br><strong>Ecaterina: <\/strong>Nu-i. Am uitat s\u0103-\u021bi spun asear\u0103 s\u0103 cumperi.<br><strong>Vova: <\/strong>M\u0103 duc la magazin. Serios, m\u0103 duc la magazin.<br><strong>Ecaterina: <\/strong>Du-te. Cu furculi\u021ba se amestec\u0103 cafeaua acolo?<br><strong>Vova: <\/strong>Dar ce, avem linguri\u021be?<br><strong>Ecaterina: <\/strong>Dar ce, a sp\u0103lat cineva asear\u0103 vasele?<br><strong>Vova: <\/strong>\u042f \u0431\u044b\u043b \u043c\u043e\u0440\u0430\u043b\u044c\u043d\u043e \u0438 \u0444\u0438\u0437\u0438\u0447\u0435\u0441\u043a\u0438 \u0438\u0441\u0442\u043e\u0449\u0435\u043d! (Am fost extenuat moral \u0219i fizic!)<br><strong>Ecaterina: <\/strong>\u041a\u0430\u043a \u043e\u0431\u044b\u0447\u043d\u043e. (Ca de obicei.)<\/em> <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>E s\u00e2mb\u0103t\u0103, 18 aprilie. Ai auzit-o pe Ecaterina \u0219i pe nepotul ei Vova. Se fac \u0219ase s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2ni de c\u00e2nd familia lor se afl\u0103 \u00een autoizolare, dup\u0103 ce epidemia de coronavirus a ajuns \u0219i \u00een Republica Moldova. Ecaterina Lu\u021bi\u0219ina are 29 de ani, nasul drept \u0219i buzele pline. \u00cei st\u0103 bine tuns\u0103 scurt. \u00cemi aminte\u0219te de Claire Underwood din House of Cards. Doar c\u0103 e brunet\u0103 \u0219i are c\u00e2teva \u0219uvi\u021be verzi \u00een breton.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ecaterina aprinde o \u021bigar\u0103, e o diminea\u021b\u0103 obi\u0219nuit\u0103. S-a trezit prima, \u00eenaintea celor doi nepo\u021bi care s-au mutat la ea, \u00eentr-un apartament cu dou\u0103 camere din Chi\u0219in\u0103u. \u0218i-a f\u0103cut cafeaua \u0219i a b\u0103ut un pahar cu ap\u0103. Tot atunci, a luat cele dou\u0103 pastile prescrise de psihiatru.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Ecaterina: <\/strong>\u201eEu fumez, de obicei, la fereastr\u0103 la buc\u0103t\u0103rie, care e un fel de mini-balcona\u0219. \u0218i pe mine m\u0103 ajut\u0103, e un moment de reculegere pentru mine. Eu \u00eencerc s\u0103 m\u0103 concentrez la ce v\u0103d \u00een fa\u021ba mea, pentru c\u0103 sunt copaci, un stadion, oameni care merg pe strad\u0103, blocurile.\u201d <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pentru Ecaterina, acesta e un moment de grij\u0103 de sine. \u00cen octombrie 2019, a fost diagnosticat\u0103 cu depresie, sindromul arderii profesionale \u0219i tulburarea borderline. De-atunci num\u0103r\u0103 zilele de c\u00e2nd a \u00eenceput s\u0103 urmeze tratament medicamentos \u0219i, tot din acel moment, \u0163ine un jurnal public pe Instagram despre via\u021ba de zi cu zi a unei persoane care trece prin provoc\u0103ri de s\u0103n\u0103tate mintal\u0103.&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/B-ynuO-DV-l\/?fbclid=IwAR0YBI2ORfiLHlBxApTqGBV7w2JaIX-wq4vdxK7SYo0h2GuCy4o8Eum5Tyg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Ziua 165<\/a>:&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<pre class=\"wp-block-verse\">\u201e<em>De c\u00e2nd a \u00eenceput carantina, m-am prins la g\u00e2ndul c\u0103 primul lucru pe care \u00eel fac diminea\u021ba, atunci c\u00e2nd ies la fereastr\u0103 s\u0103 fumez, e s\u0103 mul\u021bumesc naturii \u0219i soarelui. Am tot citit de nenum\u0103rate ori despre practica recuno\u0219tin\u021bei - scrisul \u00een jurnal despre lucrurile pentru care suntem recunosc\u0103tori. \u00cens\u0103 eu nu prea \u0219tiam ce s\u0103 scriu, mai exact, nu sim\u021beam acea recuno\u0219tin\u021b\u0103. Nu po\u021bi sim\u021bi recuno\u0219tin\u021b\u0103 atunci c\u00e2nd o nou\u0103 zi din via\u021b\u0103 pare a fi doar un calvar. Pentru mine, s\u0103 fiu recunosc\u0103toare este un progres imens! De la g\u00e2nduri suicidare, acum \u015fase s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2ni, la sentimentul de recuno\u0219tin\u021b\u0103, azi.\u201d<\/em><\/pre>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"199\" height=\"54\" src=\"https:\/\/suntbine.md\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/decorative-line-black-transparent-png-1.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-644\"\/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Cu doi ani \u00een urm\u0103, Ecaterina a tr\u0103it un \u0219ir de tragedii. Pe-atunci, recuno\u0219tin\u021ba \u00eei p\u0103rea o stare imposibil de atins. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p><strong>Ecaterina: <\/strong>\u201eAnul 2018 a fost, pur \u0219i simplu: pac!, pac!, pac! &#8211; una dup\u0103 alta. Mai \u00eent\u00e2i tata a avut primul accident vascular puternic. Peste o lun\u0103, mama cade. Peste o lun\u0103, bunica cade. Peste \u0219ase s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2ni bunica moare \u0219i \u00een septembrie moare tata. Eu nu \u00een\u021belegeam ce se \u00eent\u00e2mpl\u0103.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>A fost un calvar, spune Ecaterina despre acel an. Dup\u0103 moartea tat\u0103lui, \u00een septembrie 2018, au \u00eenceput s-o chinuie insomniile \u0219i fricile. Adormea de oboseal\u0103 \u0219i se trezea pe la patru diminea\u021ba. Acolo, \u00een interior, sim\u021bea ni\u0219te semnale de alarm\u0103, dar nu voia s\u0103 le dea importan\u021b\u0103.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Ecaterina: \u201e<\/strong>Efectiv durere interioar\u0103. Sim\u021beam c\u0103 se n\u0103ruie ceva \u00een mine \u0219i c\u0103 asta m\u0103 doare, dar eu nu voiam s\u0103 con\u0219tientizez, eu nu voiam s\u0103 analizez. I did not want to deal with it all. (Nu voiam s\u0103 m\u0103 ocup de asta.) Eu, pur \u0219i simplu, am preferat s\u0103 blochez \u0219i s\u0103 las acolo. I do not care, whatever happens, happens. (Nu-mi pas\u0103, orice s-ar \u00eent\u00e2mpla, asta e.)&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>La scurt timp, s-a adresat la psiholog, dar n-a fost diagnosticat\u0103 corect. \u00centre timp, s-a scufundat \u00een munc\u0103. A schimbat jobul dintr-o companie privat\u0103 pe pozi\u021bia de consilier \u00een Parlamentul Republicii Moldova. \u00cen timpul liber, f\u0103cea voluntariat la Extinction Rebellion, o mi\u0219care civic\u0103 ce \u00ee\u0219i propune s\u0103 atrag\u0103 aten\u021bia asupra crizei climatice.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Ecaterina: <\/strong>\u201eEu \u00eemi amintesc cum mi-am spus c\u0103 eu, pur \u0219i simplu, o s\u0103 lucrez p\u00e2n\u0103 o s\u0103 uit de mine \u0219i eu nu mai aud vocile din capul meu \u0219i nu mai simt nimic.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Strategia Ecaterinei a e\u0219uat. Nu mai putea func\u021biona la munc\u0103. Nu se putea concentra \u0219i era stresat\u0103. Era o problem\u0103 din mai multe motive. Succesul \u0219i productivitatea la serviciu erau pilonii pe care \u00ee\u0219i baza sentimentul propriei valori.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p><strong>Ecaterina: <\/strong>\u201eEu \u00eentotdeauna m\u0103 g\u00e2ndesc: just do not fail, please do not fail!*\u201d<\/p><cite>*(numai s\u0103 nu dai gre\u015f, te rog, s\u0103 nu e\u015fuezi)<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Ultimul lucru pe care \u015fi-l dorea era s\u0103 admit\u0103 c\u0103 nu va putea ie\u0219i singur\u0103 din asta. A fost nevoit\u0103 s\u0103 fac\u0103 fa\u021b\u0103 acestei realit\u0103\u021bi \u00een octombrie 2019, c\u00e2nd a avut un atac de panic\u0103 \u00een transportul public.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Ecaterina: <\/strong>\u201eAm sim\u021bit c\u0103, dac\u0103 nu ies acum, cu siguran\u021b\u0103 o s\u0103 \u00eencep s\u0103 m\u0103 hiperventilez foarte tare \u0219i nu o s\u0103 fiu \u00een stare s\u0103 ies la urm\u0103toarea sta\u021bie. \u0218i am cobor\u00e2t la Ciuflea. \u0218i am sunat, totodat\u0103, la centrul comunitar \u0219i am cerut o programare cu domnul Astrahan.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Arcadie Astrahan este psihoterapeut \u0219i director de programe \u00een cadrul Centrului Comunitar de S\u0103n\u0103tate Mintal\u0103 Botanica din Chi\u015fin\u0103u. Dup\u0103 ce a consultat-o pe Ecaterina, i-a recomandat o psihoterapeut\u0103 specializat\u0103 \u00een tulburarea borderline, care s\u0103 o ajute s\u0103 fac\u0103 fa\u021b\u0103 avalan\u0219ei de sentimente negative.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Arcadie Astrahan: <\/strong>\u201eCentral pentru o persoan\u0103 cu borderline ar fi frica puternic\u0103 de abandon, o imagine de sine distorsionat\u0103, c\u00e2nd po\u021bi \u00eentr-un moment s\u0103 te crezi foarte abil de multe lucruri \u0219i \u00een altele s\u0103 te consideri absolut f\u0103r\u0103 valoare. Avem o modificare de dispozi\u021bie brusc\u0103 c\u00e2teodat\u0103, care \u021bine de la c\u00e2teva minute p\u00e2n\u0103 la c\u00e2teva ore.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Ecaterina: <\/strong>\u201eEu dac\u0103 simt ceva, o triste\u021be, ea este at\u00e2t de profund\u0103 \u00eenc\u00e2t nu mai pot face nimic altceva. Nu m\u0103 mai pot concentra pe lucru, eu nu mai pot s\u0103 am grij\u0103 de mine, nu mai pot s\u0103 fac fa\u021b\u0103 rela\u021biilor \u00een care sunt.\u201d <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2048\" height=\"2048\" src=\"https:\/\/suntbine.md\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/05\/borderline.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-945\"\/><figcaption>Fata din caruselul emo\u021biilor. (Ilustra\u021bie de Ana Grigorovscaia)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Diagnoza borderline sau tulburarea de personalitate instabil\u0103 emo\u021bional este pus\u0103 destul de rar \u00een Republica Moldova. Diagnosticul ia timp \u0219i preg\u0103tire, iar tradi\u021bia psihiatriei sovietice \u00eenc\u0103 predomin\u0103. \u00cen Moldova, nu exist\u0103 date exacte despre num\u0103rul de persoane cu aceast\u0103 tulburare de personalitate, dar statistica interna\u021bional\u0103 contureaz\u0103 o imagine aproximativ\u0103. Cercet\u0103rile americane arat\u0103 c\u0103 de la 1,6% p\u00e2n\u0103 la 6% din popula\u021bie ar putea fi afectat\u0103, la un anumit moment din via\u021b\u0103, de sindromul borderline. E vorba, mai ales, de tineri. Multe persoane diagnosticate au \u0219i alte probleme de s\u0103n\u0103tate mintal\u0103, cum ar fi depresie, anxietate, tulbur\u0103ri alimentare. Din nou, Arcadie Astrahan:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Arcadie Astrahan: <\/strong>\u201eFoarte des borderline-ul se dezvolt\u0103 la copiii din familiile disfunc\u021bionale, din familiile cu persoane care utilizeaz\u0103 droguri sau alcool, dependente, din familii care au alte maladii mintale.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"199\" height=\"54\" src=\"https:\/\/suntbine.md\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/decorative-line-black-transparent-png-1.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-644\"\/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Ecaterina a crescut la B\u0103l\u021bi. Nu a avut o copil\u0103rie fericit\u0103. Atmosfera din familie era tensionat\u0103, iar \u00een aer plutea frica. \u00ce\u0219i tot punea \u00eentrebarea de ce mama nu divor\u021beaz\u0103 de tata, dar nici p\u00e2n\u0103 ast\u0103zi nu a \u00een\u021beles ce i-a \u021binut \u00eempreun\u0103. Cele mai frumoase clipe le petrecea la 40 de kilometri distan\u021b\u0103 de casa p\u0103rinteasc\u0103. \u00cen fiecare an, c\u00e2nd venea vara, \u00ee\u0219i f\u0103cea bagajul \u015fi pleca s\u0103 petreac\u0103 trei luni de vacan\u021b\u0103 al\u0103turi de bunica de la Nicoreni. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ecaterina o \u021bine minte ca pe o femeie puternic\u0103 \u0219i ambi\u021bioas\u0103, care \u00ee\u0219i \u00eemp\u0103r\u021bea timpul \u00eentre \u0219coala unde preda lec\u021bii de fizic\u0103 \u0219i lotul de p\u0103m\u00e2nt pe care-l lucra de zor. Bunica avea grij\u0103 \u015fi de studiile copilei. Luau manualele pentru noul an \u0219colar \u0219i, p\u00e2n\u0103 la 1 septembrie, parcurgeau \u00eempreun\u0103 materiile mai dificile. Nu era totul perfect. Dar anume acolo, pe colinele acelui s\u0103tuc, cunoscut doar pentru m\u0103n\u0103stirea de c\u0103lug\u0103ri din v\u00e2rful dealului, Ecaterina a g\u0103sit un dram de normalitate psihologic\u0103, ceea ce-i lipsea acas\u0103. Acum, cu greu \u00ee\u0219i aminte\u0219te vreun moment de tandre\u021be din copil\u0103rie.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p><strong>Ecaterina: <\/strong>\u201eEl iese din camer\u0103, dar eu stau \u00een fotoliu \u00een sufragerie \u0219i m\u0103 uit la televizor. Se uit\u0103 la mine, se str\u00e2mb\u0103 \u0219i dup\u0103 asta vine la mine \u0219i m\u0103 m\u00e2ng\u00e2ie pe cap. Acesta e singurul moment pe care mi-l mai amintesc \u0219i care e pl\u0103cut \u0219i de care-mi aminteam cu foarte mult drag \u0219i cu c\u0103ldur\u0103.\u201d&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Ecaterina vorbe\u0219te despre tat\u0103l ei, Victor. El era dependent de alcool \u0219i \u00ee\u0219i abuza verbal \u0219i psihologic familia. Cel mai mult a avut de suferit sora cea mare \u2013 copilul rebel al casei. La polul opus era Ecaterina, care \u00eencerca s\u0103 fie copilul cuminte \u0219i le f\u0103cea tuturor pe plac, ca s\u0103 nu fie certat\u0103 sau s\u0103 ia b\u0103taie.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Ecaterina: <\/strong>\u201eMie \u00eentotdeauna mi-a lipsit dragostea tat\u0103lui. Eu \u00eemi amintesc cum el pleca dis-de-diminea\u021b\u0103 s\u0103 bea ceva &#8211; era un bar \u00een apropiere de casa noastr\u0103 &#8211; \u0219i el venea beat, abia se \u021binea pe picioare \u0219i mereu c\u0103uta scandal. Trebuia s\u0103 fiu foarte-foarte atent\u0103 la ce spun, ce priviri am, cum reac\u021bionez, pentru c\u0103 se putea ag\u0103\u021ba de absolut orice \u0219i \u00eencepea o ceart\u0103 ur\u00e2t\u0103. \u0218i iat\u0103 frica asta, starea asta numai s\u0103 nu gre\u0219esc cu ceva, numai s\u0103 nu-l provoc, numai s\u0103 nu-i ar\u0103t c\u0103 m\u0103 deranjeaz\u0103, at\u00e2ta timp c\u00e2t el face drumul \u0103sta din antreu \u00een camer\u0103 (c\u0103ci, de obicei, se ducea s\u0103 doarm\u0103), m\u0103 rugam ca el s\u0103 stea s\u0103 doarm\u0103 p\u00e2n\u0103 s\u0103-\u0219i revin\u0103, s\u0103 nu se trezeasc\u0103 fiind \u00eenc\u0103 ame\u021bit \u0219i s\u0103 \u00eenceap\u0103 iar\u0103\u0219i un scandal. Cam asta era rutina.\u201d <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed-youtube wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Via\u021ba cu depresie, burnout \u0219i tulburare borderline pe timp de pandemie | Sunt Bine Podcast\" width=\"825\" height=\"464\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/FPo-Vfb_Lcc?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Victor \u00eentotdeauna zicea, mai \u00een glum\u0103, mai \u00een serios, c\u0103 va muri t\u00e2n\u0103r, poveste\u015fte Ecaterina. \u00cen acele momente, el \u00ee\u0219i amintea de r\u0103d\u0103cinile sale ucrainene \u0219i recita c\u00e2teva versuri dintr-o poezie de Taras \u0218evcenko, despre \u021bar\u0103, p\u0103m\u00e2nt \u0219i moarte. \u015ei-a prezis soarta, spune Ecaterina. Victor a murit la v\u00e2rsta de 58 de ani.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Ecaterina: <\/strong>\u201eEu a\u0219a credeam c\u0103, uite, c\u00e2nd el o s\u0103 moar\u0103, mie \u00eemi va fi mult mai u\u0219or. Am ajuns s\u0103 regret foarte mult aceast\u0103 distan\u021bare, imediat \u00een ziua c\u00e2nd mama mi-a spus c\u0103 el a murit. \u0218i am suferit foarte-foarte mult din cauza asta \u00eenc\u0103 mult timp, m-am \u00eenvinov\u0103\u021bit foarte mult pe mine, pentru c\u0103 nu am petrecut cu d\u00e2nsul mai mult timp.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>La finele unui 2019 plin de provoc\u0103ri, Ecaterina a decis s\u0103-\u0219i \u00eemplineasc\u0103 un vis pe care-l avea de ani de zile. \u0218i-a f\u0103cut un tatuaj. Pe \u00eencheietura m\u00e2inii drepte are imprimat un proverb japonez, care o urm\u0103re\u0219te de la 16 ani, de c\u00e2nd l-a citit prima oar\u0103 pe peretele s\u0103lii de englez\u0103, pe vremea c\u00e2nd studia \u00een Statele Unite. \u201eCazi de 7 ori, ridic\u0103-te de 8 ori\u201d, spune proverbul, stilizat cu numere romane. Iat\u0103 cum explic\u0103 aceast\u0103 decizie \u00een jurnalul s\u0103u de pe Instagram.&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/B54qodlBG0G\/?fbclid=IwAR2s1VkYohYrotgKYv8Rs8WBPQ5t4Czxv26_LYVDsjAFPvaDAFiCftwrx8M\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Ziua 42<\/a>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<pre class=\"wp-block-verse\"><em>\u201ePentru o persoan\u0103 care are dificult\u0103\u021bi la capitolul s\u0103n\u0103tate mintal\u0103 este extrem de important s\u0103 aib\u0103 la \u00eendem\u00e2n\u0103 instrumente care s\u0103 o ajute s\u0103 se \u00abridice\u00bb, dup\u0103 fiecare \u00abc\u0103dere\u00bb. Tratamentul medicamentos ajut\u0103, \u00eens\u0103 el nu e destul. De acum \u00eencolo am un mic \u00abinstrument\u00bb chiar pe corpul meu <\/em>and it feels awesome <em>(\u015fi m\u0103 simt extraordinar).\u201d<\/em><\/pre>\n\n\n\n<p>Nu exist\u0103 medicamente contra borderline-ului. Simptomele se trateaz\u0103 cu antidepresive, antipsihotice sau cu medicamente stabilizatoare de dispozi\u021bie. Ajut\u0103 mult psihoterapia dialectic-comportamental\u0103, de care beneficiaz\u0103 Ecaterina. \u00cen lipsa terapiei, cre\u0219te riscul de suicid. Borderline-ul are una dintre cele mai mari rate printre afec\u0163iunile psihiatrice. De la 8% p\u00e2n\u0103 la 10% din persoanele diagnosticate se sinucid, arat\u0103 datele Asocia\u021biei Americane de Psihiatrie. Ca s\u0103 te faci bine, e nevoie de un efort emo\u021bional \u0219i financiar substan\u021bial, spune Arcadie Astrahan.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p><strong>Arcadie Astrahan<\/strong>: \u201ePersoanele cu borderline aparent sunt ok, a\u021bi v\u0103zut-o pe Ecaterina. Dar ce o cost\u0103 ca suferin\u021b\u0103? Valuta e foarte scump\u0103.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"199\" height=\"54\" src=\"https:\/\/suntbine.md\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/decorative-line-black-transparent-png-1.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-644\"\/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><em><strong>Vova: <\/strong>Gata, mai departe ce?<br><strong>Ecaterina: <\/strong>\u021aelina, spal-o mai \u00eent\u00e2i\u2026<br><strong>Vova: <\/strong>Daaa\u2026<br><strong>Ecaterina: <\/strong>Doamne, ce bine miroase c\u0103rni\u021ba, mmmm\u2026<\/em> <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ecaterina locuie\u0219te cu doi nepo\u021bi \u2013 unul de 16 \u0219i altul de 11 ani. Din cauza unor circumstan\u021be familiale dificile, s-a decis ca b\u0103ie\u021bii s\u0103 se mute pentru o perioad\u0103 la Chi\u0219in\u0103u. Vova, nepotul mai mare, a venit la sf\u00e2r\u015fit de ianuarie, \u00een ajunul zilei sale de na\u0219tere. Ecaterina i-a cump\u0103rat tortul preferat, \u201ePrin\u0163ul negru\u201d, \u0219i i-a promis c\u0103 prim\u0103vara vor merge cu to\u021bii la Odesa, la mare. Nu e prima dat\u0103 c\u00e2nd Ecaterina are grij\u0103 de nepo\u021bi. O face din adolescen\u021b\u0103. Sora ei este dependent\u0103 de droguri \u0219i alcool, are probleme de s\u0103n\u0103tate \u0219i nu lucreaz\u0103. Ecaterina e cea care face cu b\u0103ie\u021bii temele, le ascult\u0103 problemele \u0219i \u00eei ajut\u0103 cu bani.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Ecaterina: <\/strong>\u201eSunt mai multe roluri: \u0219i de mam\u0103, \u0219i de prieten\u0103, \u0219i de m\u0103tu\u0219\u0103. \u00cencerc s\u0103 jonglez \u0219i s\u0103 nu o iau razna. Din punct de vedere emo\u021bional, e un pic dificil pentru mine. Cel mic se enerveaz\u0103 u\u015for, e greu s\u0103-l convingi s\u0103 \u00eencerce, dar m\u0103 ajut\u0103 antidepresantele. A disp\u0103rut impulsivitatea, nu \u00eemi pierd controlul, nu \u00eencep s\u0103 \u021bip.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ecaterina \u0219i b\u0103ie\u021bii stau acas\u0103 de o lun\u0103 \u0219i jum\u0103tate. A fost greu la \u00eenceput. \u00cen prima s\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2n\u0103, Ecaterina a r\u0103cit. \u00cen urm\u0103toarea, a avut insomnii \u0219i s-a sim\u021bit ineficient\u0103, dup\u0103 care, \u00eencet-\u00eencet, \u0219i-a stabilit o rutin\u0103. Diminea\u021ba mediteaz\u0103, face yoga \u0219i gimnastic\u0103. Mai t\u00e2rziu, lucreaz\u0103 \u0219i-l ajut\u0103 pe cel mic cu temele. Cine nu g\u0103te\u0219te acela spal\u0103 vasele \u2013 este regula casei. Ecaterina \u0219i Vova spun c\u0103 sunt prieteni buni \u0219i c\u0103 vorbesc deschis despre orice. Pe parcursul zilei, se \u00eentreab\u0103 reciproc: tu cum te sim\u021bi?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Ecaterina: \u201e<\/strong>El e foarte empatic, m\u0103 simte c\u00e2nd nu sunt ok. \u0218i el de mai multe ori mi-a spus dup\u0103 ce vorbeam: M-a ajutat foarte mult, \u00ee\u021bi mul\u021bumesc c\u0103 m-ai ascultat \u0219i m-ai ajutat s\u0103 \u00een\u021beleg ce se \u00eent\u00e2mpl\u0103 cu mine.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p><strong>Vova<\/strong>: \u201e[Ecaterina] e un om pe care-l iubesc. \u00cenainte nu am avut a\u0219a leg\u0103tur\u0103 bun\u0103 cu ea \u0219i chiar suntem ni\u0219te prieteni foarte buni, apropia\u021bi.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"199\" height=\"54\" src=\"https:\/\/suntbine.md\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/decorative-line-black-transparent-png-1.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-644\"\/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Ecaterina discut\u0103 cu Vova despre prietena lui \u0219i rela\u021bia dintre ei. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em><strong>Ecaterina: <\/strong>Din toate rela\u021biile tale anterioare, dinamica acestei rela\u021bii mie \u00eemi place. Totul e calm, chiar dac\u0103 ave\u021bi ne\u00een\u021belegeri, oricum g\u0103si\u021bi numitor comun.<br><strong>Vova: <\/strong>Da-da. Certurile trebuiesc \u0219i noi am vorbit ieri despre asta. [&#8230;] \u0218i ea a zis c\u0103 la d\u00e2nsa, c\u00e2nd au fost rela\u021bii, certurile, \u043f\u0440\u043e\u0441\u0442\u043e (pur \u015fi simplu), erau \u043d\u0435 \u043e \u0447\u0451\u043c (despre fleacuri). Erau mai \u0436\u0451\u0441\u0442\u043a\u0438\u0435 (dure) mereu \u0219i nu duceau la numitor comun. Dar aici, ceva nou, ceva mai splendid.<br><strong>Ecaterina: <\/strong>Splendid\u2026 O, \u0411\u043e\u0436\u0435! Nice, nice. \u042d\u0442\u043e \u0445\u043e\u0440\u043e\u0448\u043e. \u041f\u043e\u0437\u0434\u0440\u0430\u0432\u043b\u044f\u0448\u043a\u0438! (O, Doamne! Frumos, frumos. Asta e bine. Felicit\u0103ri!)<\/em> <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ecaterina e singura care aduce bani \u00een cas\u0103. Un detaliu ce-l incomodeaz\u0103 pe Vova, care vrea mai mult\u0103 independen\u021b\u0103. Stau cu chirie \u00een apartamentul unei cuno\u0219tin\u021be de-a Ecaterinei, care cere pu\u021bini bani \u0219i nu a\u0219teapt\u0103 plata lunar. \u00cen alte condi\u021bii, nu s-ar fi descurcat.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Ecaterina: \u201e<\/strong>M-am angajat la un ONG de mediu, salariul e acela\u0219i ca la parlament. Dac\u0103 nu m\u0103n\u00e2nc \u00een ora\u0219, g\u0103tesc mai mult acas\u0103 \u0219i am grij\u0103 cum cheltui banii, <em>I can survive <\/em>(pot supravie\u0163ui).\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Vova era c\u00e2t pe ce s\u0103 se angajeze barman la C51, un local din centrul Chi\u0219in\u0103ului, dar pandemia i-a stricat planurile. \u00cenalt \u0219i usc\u0103\u021biv, cu capul ras \u0219i ochi c\u0103prui, adolescentul de 16 ani poart\u0103 negru \u0219i ascult\u0103 post-punk, trupe ca <em>Motorama <\/em>\u0219i <em>Lebanon Hanover<\/em>. Acum \u00eens\u0103 pe repeat e trupa ruseasc\u0103 de hip-hop <em>Krovostok<\/em>, ale c\u0103rei albume sunt marcate cu inscrip\u021bia 18+, din cauza textelor cu detalii violente. Vova \u00ee\u0219i petrece timpul liber desen\u00e2nd mon\u0219tri, creaturi bizare \u0219i scene horror. Le schi\u021beaz\u0103 pe h\u00e2rtie, carton sau ce-i cade sub m\u00e2n\u0103, dar ar prefera s\u0103 g\u0103seasc\u0103 un perete curat \u00een ora\u0219 pe care s\u0103 fac\u0103 graffiti. Primele vopsele spray tot Ecaterina i le-a d\u0103ruit, de Cr\u0103ciun, c\u00e2nd avea vreo zece ani. S-a dus \u00een spatele unor garaje \u015fi a scris SWAG \u0219i A.C.A.B. (acronim pentru \u201e<em>All cops are bastards<\/em>\u201d). Cu timpul, a \u00een\u021beles c\u0103 vrea s\u0103-\u0219i lege via\u021ba de art\u0103.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p><strong>Vova<\/strong>: \u201eA\u0219 vrea s\u0103 ob\u0163in un job legat cu arta \u0219i care s\u0103-mi plac\u0103, dar am \u00een\u021beles c\u0103 mie \u00eemi trebuie bani \u0219i vreau s\u0103 am banii mei, s\u0103 pot singur s\u0103 cheltui cum vreau banii mei. \u015ei mie mi-i paralel, m-a\u0219 duce \u0219i a\u0219 lucra \u00een acela\u0219i McDonald&#8217;s, dac\u0103 trebuie.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Ecaterina: <\/strong>\u201eEl este foarte matur. S-a maturizat \u00eenainte de vreme. Pe alocuri este un pic dificil, pe alocuri un pic lene\u0219. E cu picioarele pe p\u0103m\u00e2nt \u0219i \u00een\u021belege c\u0103 trebuie s\u0103 ne ajute \u00een situa\u021bia \u00een care mama lui nu lucreaz\u0103.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ecaterina \u00ee\u0219i trateaz\u0103 nepo\u021bii ca pe ni\u0219te adul\u021bi. Seara, \u00een sufragerie, pot discuta despre orice &#8211; de la <em>A Nightmare on Elm Street<\/em>, un film din 1984, p\u00e2n\u0103 la bolile cu transmitere sexual\u0103. \u00cencearc\u0103 s\u0103 \u00eempart\u0103 responsabilit\u0103\u021bile egal. S\u0103pt\u0103m\u00e2na aceasta, Vova a fost cel care a mers la supermarketul din apropiere dup\u0103 produse, iar Ecaterina nu a ie\u0219it deloc din cas\u0103. Nu e f\u0103r\u0103 certuri, mai ales c\u00e2nd e vorba despre treburi casnice, dar ambii au \u00eenv\u0103\u021bat s\u0103-\u0219i tempereze emo\u021biile.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"199\" height=\"54\" src=\"https:\/\/suntbine.md\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/decorative-line-black-transparent-png-1.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-644\"\/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><em>Ecaterina: <\/em><\/strong><em>Ai \u00eenv\u00e2rtit p\u00e2n\u0103 la cap\u0103t? Trebuie de tras. A nu-nu-nu, d\u0103 s\u0103-\u021bi ar\u0103t, scumpule, iubire, a\u0219a se face. Trebuie de sucit oleac\u0103. C\u00e2t vin trebuie s\u0103 pun? 1 cup dry white wine (o can\u0103 de vin alb), aha.&nbsp;<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ecaterina face lasagna. Verific\u0103 re\u021beta \u0219i adaug\u0103 un pahar de vin alb. \u00centre timp, Vova \u00eei d\u0103 o m\u00e2n\u0103 de ajutor la buc\u0103t\u0103rie. Lasagna a ie\u0219it delicioas\u0103. Dup\u0103 cin\u0103, c\u00e2nd r\u0103m\u00e2ne cu ea \u00eens\u0103\u0219i, Ecaterina se g\u00e2nde\u0219te la viitorul nepo\u021bilor.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p><strong>Ecaterina: <\/strong>\u201eFetelor, ei sunt ca \u015fi copiii mei, sincer. Eu am trecut prin tare multe perioade \u00een care mi-am pus problema: ce va fi cu ei c\u00e2nd sora mea nu o s\u0103 mai fie?\u201d&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Este con\u0219tient\u0103 c\u0103 b\u0103ie\u021bii au trecut deja prin ni\u015fte traume, dar sper\u0103 c\u0103 asta nu le va marca via\u021ba. \u00cen ceea ce o prive\u0219te, Ecaterina \u0219tie c\u0103 le va fi al\u0103turi. \u0218tie, de asemenea, c\u0103 va continua s\u0103-\u0219i publice g\u00e2ndurile \u0219i s\u0103 povesteasc\u0103 prin ce trece. \u00cen felul acesta, \u00ee\u0219i \u00eenva\u021b\u0103 nepo\u021bii c\u0103 este bine s\u0103 fii vulnerabil.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Ecaterina: <\/strong>\u201eDac\u0103 eu o s\u0103 vorbesc numai despre lucrurile bune, creez impresia c\u0103 la mine totul e ok, dar asta e ideea &#8211; eu m-am s\u0103turat c\u0103 toat\u0103 lumea creeaz\u0103 impresia c\u0103 la ei totul e bine, c\u00e2nd, \u00een realitate, eu \u0219tiu c\u0103 to\u021bi noi avem <em>shitty days <\/em>(zile foarte proaste). Hai ajunge at\u00e2ta s\u0103 ne ascundem dup\u0103 masca \u201eDa, totul e bine, eu m\u0103n\u00e2nc chestii gustoase, eu m\u0103 plimb, eu beau cafelu\u021ba \u00een parc\u201d. <em>\u0414\u0430 \u043f\u043e\u0448\u043b\u0438 \u0432\u044b! (Ia mai l\u0103sa\u0163i-m\u0103!)<\/em> Vorbi\u021bi \u0219i despre ceea ce ne doare, <em>\u0451-\u043c\u043e\u0451 <\/em>(fir-ar s\u0103 fie)! De ce trebuie s\u0103 vorbim doar despre ceea ce e frumos \u0219i bine \u00een via\u021ba noastr\u0103?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ecaterina a ajuns la aceast\u0103 concluzie dup\u0103 un drum lung \u0219i plin de serpentine. Iat\u0103 ce scria la \u00eenceputul c\u0103l\u0103toriei, c\u00e2nd abia \u00eencepea tratamentul, pe 3 noiembrie 2019, \u00een una dintre primele sale post\u0103ri pe Instagram.&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/p\/B4aanwKhbNI\/?fbclid=IwAR1yTZq_LfcfPp4jGYN5W9qH7qRNzwS0cIUH8cDmDruaTiU-5q8--relOzg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Ziua 5<\/a>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<pre class=\"wp-block-verse\"><em>\u201eAm citit c\u0103 persoanele care sufer\u0103 de tulburarea de personalitate borderline au dificultatea de a accepta s\u0103 fie vulnerabili. Da, a\u0219a e, mi-am zis. S\u0103 scriu despre BPD e un curaj imens \u0219i m-am r\u0103zg\u00e2ndit de zeci de ori \u00eenainte s\u0103 postez aceste r\u00e2nduri aici. It's out in the open now <\/em>(a ie\u015fit totul la iveal\u0103).<em> Ca \u0219i sub un clopot de sticl\u0103, descris at\u00e2t de bine de Sylvia Plath. Nu m\u0103 mir\u0103 c\u0103 m-am \u00eendr\u0103gostit de acest roman la 17 ani.\u201d<\/em><\/pre>\n\n\n\n<p>Ecaterina \u00ee\u0219i \u00eencheie ziua a\u0219a cum a \u00eenceput-o, cu o \u021bigar\u0103 Marlboro aprins\u0103 la fereastra din buc\u0103t\u0103rie. \u00cen fa\u021ba ei se a\u0219terne un parc cu copaci de un verde crud, sfid\u0103tor de viu pentru cei care au ales s\u0103 stea \u00een autoizolare. Seara coboar\u0103 peste cl\u0103dirile sovietice de la orizont. Ecaterina prive\u0219te cum se aprind lumini\u021bele din ferestrele anonime \u0219i se las\u0103 dus\u0103 de amintiri.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Ecaterina: <\/strong>\u201e\u00cen ceea ce-l prive\u0219te pe tata, nu vreau s\u0103 spun c\u0103 m-am resemnat, chiar dac\u0103 el a murit. Mai ales dup\u0103 ce mi-au pus diagnosticul \u0219i mai ales dup\u0103 ce am \u00eenceput tratamentul, eu parc\u0103 am \u00eenceput s\u0103 simt o compasiune fa\u021b\u0103 de el. El, cu siguran\u021b\u0103, a avut ceva probleme mintale, dar nu a \u0219tiut s\u0103 cear\u0103 ajutorul, nu s-a vorbit despre aceea c\u0103 este ok s\u0103 cear\u0103 ajutorul \u0219i nu a \u0219tiut c\u0103, uite, dac\u0103 ar fi f\u0103cut un tratament, el s-ar fi sim\u021bit mult mai bine. Pur \u0219i simplu, a fost un om care, la fel, a avut \u0219i el mam\u0103 alcoolic\u0103, un tat\u0103 agresiv, a avut o copil\u0103rie nefericit\u0103 \u0219i niciodat\u0103 nu a avut ocazia s\u0103 proceseze traumele astea, s\u0103 \u00een\u021beleag\u0103 ce i s-a \u00eent\u00e2mplat \u0219i s\u0103-i ierte \u0219i el, la r\u00e2ndul lui, pe oameni aceia. <em>He was just very broken, and he needed help, but he didn\u2019t know he needed help. <\/em>(Era r\u0103nit \u0219i avea nevoie de ajutor, dar nu \u0219tia c\u0103 avea nevoie de asta.)\u201d <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ecaterina are de g\u00e2nd s\u0103 evadeze cu b\u0103ie\u021bii la Odesa. Marea o calmeaz\u0103, vrea s\u0103 \u00eemp\u0103rt\u0103\u0219easc\u0103 aceast\u0103 senza\u021bie cu ei. Se vor plimba pe litoral, \u00ee\u0219i vor \u00eemplini poftele de bun\u0103t\u0103\u0163i, vor admira arhitectura. Deja dup\u0103 carantin\u0103, poate, se g\u00e2nde\u0219te t\u00e2n\u0103ra \u0219i stinge \u021bigara. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"199\" height=\"54\" src=\"https:\/\/suntbine.md\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/02\/decorative-line-black-transparent-png-1.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-644\"\/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Acest episod a fost realizat cu sprijinul <a href=\"https:\/\/www.eda.admin.ch\/countries\/moldova\/ro\/home\/reprezentantse\/cooperare.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Biroului de cooperare al Elve\u021biei \u00een Republica Moldova<\/a>. Opiniile exprimate ne apar\u021bin \u0219i nu reflect\u0103 neap\u0103rat punctul de vedere al donatorilor.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p style=\"text-align:center\"><a class=\"button\" href=\"https:\/\/suntbine.md\/?p=1020\"><span class=\"mdi mdi-rotate-90 mdi-google-podcast\"><\/span> \u041d\u0430 \u0440\u0443\u0441\u0441\u043a\u043e\u043c<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ecaterina are depresie, burnout \u0219i tulburare borderline. Pandemia de coronavirus a izolat-o \u00een apartament cu doi nepo\u021bi adolescen\u021bi. 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